Mondo Kane

I've said before that this and the throne room sequences are the only reasons why I re-watch ROTJ. The Jabba stuff was cool when I was a kid, but (When watching it now) can you say monotonous?

3P0 & R2 go to Jabba's palace. They become his servants.
Leia goes to Jabba's palace. She becomes his slave.
Luke goes to Jabba's palace...Twice (Once by hologram) He almost gets executed...Twice.

yawn like a muthafuka.

PatD

Seconded.

Despite all the griping about Jedi, it's head and shoulders above The Prequel Trilogy.

DaveyJoe

It's not unfair to compare two movies from the same series under any circumstances, especially when the same talent is involved. Empire's greatness does not excuse Jedi's flaws. Instead it begs the question: 'wtf happened?'

Rob V

The Ewoks happened.

Brack

As someone also born in 1981, my favorite movies growing up, and still my favorite trilogy, is the original Star Wars trilogy. If anything, the SE versions have prevented me from watching them much on BD, because the first and third movie cuts still take me out of those movies due to seeing the original cuts a million times.

Kal-El

Is Episode VII moving up it's release date?

Mike86

I agree with that. I definitely haven't watched the Original Trilogy as much due in large part to not having access to decent versions of the unaltered versions. I have the 2004 DVD set and have watched it but not very often mostly because the changes are distracting.

It seems kind of late to change the release date now. The marketing should have already started if they wanted a summer release. Not sure why they went with a winter date to begin with honestly. I know partially to avoid the other big summer blockbusters but still that time of year seems like a better fit for it.

taffer

It was mentioned earlier, but Disney already has Ultron coming out in May and Ant-Man in July. They're not going to release Star Wars at the same time or risk cannibalizing their sales.

Solid Snake

It's not impossible and it has happened with others. Sometimes it happens but when was the last time Disney faced itself on a scale like this possibility?

Mike86

I understand that but it's not like those are the only two summer months. They could have gone for June where the main competition would be Jurassic World. They also could have went a bit early and done a late March or early April release.

taffer

I have mentioned before that I never go to theaters, so maybe I am wrong, but wouldn't Ultron still be playing in theaters in June? How long do movies last in the theaters? I know it depends on how big the movie is, but a big movie like Ultron I figure is going to last more than one month in the theaters.

Yes, a spring or fall release would have worked for Star Wars, but the reason why it wasn't summer is because Disney already has the two Marvel movies coming in summer. I figure that Disney probably assumes Star Wars will sell like hotcakes no matter when they release it, so they give the summer to Marvel and then release Star Wars whenever.

Mike86

I'm sure Age of Ultron will still be in theaters in June, but it's going to make most of its money in the first couple of weeks more than likely. They could have done The Force Awakens maybe the second week of June or so and wouldn't run too big a risk of it hurting Age of Ultron's numbers.

RichC2

The span between Ultron and Jurassic World includes 6 weekends with JW starting on the 7th. If it does as well as the first Avengers, and I'm not entirely sure it will, it will pull about $11m the weekend Jurassic Park releases so there's nearly no competition left over from it, or very little.

Since there is no Hobbit movie, no Harry Potter, nothing major coming out in December, it's a huge chance for Disney to claim the 2 week money period in December (the window where a movie like Annie can gross $85m, Into the Woods makes $100m+ and Avatar destroys everything). Seriously, it's competition is In the Heart of the Sea (Dec 11), Alivin and the Chipmunks 4 (12/25), Point Break (12/25) and Monster Trucks (12/25).

taffer

Why don't you think Ultron will do as well?

This wiki link shows the box office for all the MCU movies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ce_performance

Phase 2 has blown away Phase 1 in the box office, despite Phase 2 having some arguably low quality movies like Iron Man 3 and Thor 2.

Heck, Iron Man 3 made as much at the box office as Iron Man 1 and 2 combined.

Thor 2 was the lowest grossing Phase 2 movie, but yet it still grossed more than all the Phase 1 movies except for the Avengers.

The total combined box office of all the MCU movies together is over $7 billion. That's kinda crazy that 10 movies have made over $7 billion altogether.

RichC2

Oh yeah, I was going off domestic. Worldwide it's tough to tell.

Josh-da-man

Star Wars mania died after ROTJ because there were no more movies coming out to keep it in the popular consciousness. The world was very different in the 1980s and there wasn't a huge, organized fandom keeping the flame going like there was for Star Trek.

The 90s comeback for Star Wars via Dark Horse's "Dark Empire" comic books and Zahn's "Heir to the Empire" novels hit at the right time when the fans of the movies had grown into adults with disposable income, and the merchandise floodgates were opened.

stvn1974

It makes more sense to release it around Christmas. The buzz leading up to the film would rake in the money from toys and other merchandise given as Holiday gifts.

Brack

This, and also the movie will have no competition into the winter months like it would in the summer months.

Michael Corvin

It was the first superhero team up movie. Lots of non comic/superhero nerds went to see it.

Now we get to see if the novelty has worn off, at least for these heroes. Batman & Superman in the same movie will have the same curious appeal by the general public that Avengers had.


This is the most accurate assessment of the period after Jedi that's been posted. I have a year on you but the Thrawn trilogy hit in high school, as did Kenner's relaunch of the figure line. The brand was alive and well in gaming during the 90's as well. Then the SE hit a few years later and all that fed right into Episode 1 a few years after that. Prior to the early 90's it was just a total dead zone after Jedi unless you were a toddler.

taffer

No, it wasn't. X-Men was.

Although the X-Men didn't have the same build up with solo movies like the MCU had, the X-Men is still the first superhero team movie.

Dr. DVD

IF they move this to summer would they move Avengers to December? Seems a little late to make this kind of decision.

Mike86

X-Men was on a different level though, The Avengers is the first time that heroes who previously had solo films combined into one major film. Plus even though X-Men technically was a team up film it's really just a Wolverine/Rogue centric story guest starring the other team members.

No chance Age of Ultron moves dates at this point.

taffer

That's exactly what I said...

echo... echooooooooooooo...


Considering that they have already released multiple trailers with May stamped on them, there's no chance it gets moved. The public is expecting it to hit that date.

Mike86

Except in the first part of your post you tried to play it off that it actually was the first team up film when I wouldn't really say it was.

taffer

I wasn't playing it off. I said that the X-Men was the first team movie. It is, and I still stand by that.

I just threw in that second line about it being different than the MCU because I knew some smartass would bring that up anyway. Yes, it is different from the MCU, but that is irrelevant. The X-Men is still a team movie. It's X-Men, not X-Man. X-Men by the very definition is more than one, i.e. a team movie. You can say it is mostly about Wolverine all you want, but that is irrelevant. Cyclops, Jean, Storm, etc were still there and a part of the team.